Cuyahoga County 66% White, And 66% For Issue 6...6...6... Isn't That Convenient

Submitted by Norm Roulet on Wed, 11/04/2009 - 14:21.

I was just observing a graphic of Issue 6 voting results, on Issue 6 sponsor site Cleveland.com, and noticed how lily-white the voting for this issue clearly was.

In 98.4% white Hunting Valley, 248 people voted for Issue 6, and 18 against... 93% for Issue 6

Where Issue 6 first festered - Mayor Bruce Akers' 89% white Pepper Pike - 83% for Issue 6.

In Issue 6 Grand Mother Rawson's 30% black Shaker Heights... 74% of voters were for Issue 6...

666 Sister Sutherland's 98% white Bay Village voted 77% for 6...

In 42% white Cleveland, Issue 6 only received 57%. The Plain Dealer does not break their Issue 6 voting analysis down by race or by ward, in Cleveland - this would probably reveal stronger correlations between pro-Issue 6 voting and being white.

More interesting would be the correlation between Pro-Issue 6 funding and being white.

In total numbers, in Cuyahoga County, the 2008 population is estimated at 66.8% white, and Issue 6 received 66.2% voting in favor. Isn't that convenient.

It is estimated, in the past 8 years the white population of Northeast Ohio declined by over 75,000, while the black population stood strong. as a backbone of our region. Blacks are not running away, but their representation in the community has been diminished to a point where regional decision-making is so diluted, and regionalized, that the regional 66% majority white population has eliminated fair representation of the large, stable, important yet highly-localized minority black population.

That seems to have been the point of Issue 6, and it succeeded.

That has set in place an environment for great racial and social turmoil, making this a very unsafe region for the foreseeable future, for people of all races.

I believe the new Cuyahoga County administration vision set in place by Issue 6 will make this public safely problem even worse, and I am considering relocating from the region as a result.

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Just a Thought... Correlation does not imply causation

Submitted by ljhg on Wed, 11/04/2009 - 21:08.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 


An example of how correlation does not imply causation

"Correlation does not imply causation" is a phrase used in science and statistics to emphasize that correlation between two variables does not automatically imply that one causes the other (though it does not remove the fact that correlation can still be a hint, whether powerful or otherwise[1][2]). The phrase's opposite, correlation proves causation, is a logical fallacy by which two events that occur together are claimed to have a cause-and-effect relationship. The fallacy is also known as cum hoc ergo propter hoc (Latin for "with this, therefore because of this") and false cause. By contrast, the fallacy post hoc ergo propter hoc requires that one event occur before the other and so may be considered a type of cum hoc.

In a widely-studied example, numerous epidemiological studies showed that women who were taking combined hormone replacement therapy (HRT) also had a lower-than-average incidence of coronary heart disease (CHD), leading doctors to propose that HRT was protective against CHD. But randomized controlled trials showed that HRT caused a small and significant increase in risk of CHD. Re-analysis of the data from the epidemiological studies showed that women undertaking HRT were more likely to be from higher socio-economic groups (ABC1), with better than average diet and exercise regimes. The use of HRT and decreased incidence of coronary heart disease were coincident effects of a common cause (i.e., the benefits associated with a higher socioeconomic status), rather than cause and effect as had been supposed.[3]

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation 

Are you talking about poverty and violence

Submitted by Norm Roulet on Wed, 11/04/2009 - 21:49.

Or white voters and voting for Issue 6.

Or white money behind issue 6 and white voters for Issue 6.

Or white money behind white Plain Dealer editors and PD promotion of issue 6.

Cause and effect?

Really doesn't matter, at this point.

I'm going to Gilbertworld

Disrupt IT

And birds of a feather flock

Submitted by ward14resident on Wed, 11/04/2009 - 22:18.

And birds of a feather flock together.  It is an old saying but there is a lot of truth in it.  Everything can't be proven or disproven by studies.  You will never be able to study every single situation in every context.  Some things people need to learn by actually being there.