Love it...and Norm and Jeff B should especially enjoy...they love grafitti art!

Hey guys... I couldn't take it....went back out and updated the blunder.... Anyone interested in painting a REAL mural after the election has my permission!

The sign is now broke into several areas: 

SECTION 1) 

ELECT 

NELSON CINTRON JR

Visit www.REALNEO.US

SECTION 2) 

JOIN US ON

FACEBOOK

TWITTER

MYSPACE

Section 3: 

A HUGE Halo'd Happy Face the says: UNITE WARD 14 RESIDENTS ...

which has a boarded up window that reads: NO MORE SANTIAGO POLARIZATION & ABUSE

Section 4) NO MORE OF THIS: 

ASK SANTIAGO WHERE THE $400,000/YR WENT

with an arrow pointing to something that says: 

               $30,000 to Fireworks in 2009.

Section 5) Includes 2 more boarded up windows on the front of the building: 

                            1) NO MORE SANTIAGO

                            2) Oops...cannot remember this second! Ran out of light for photos...but you get the jist.

SEE MY BLOG FOR AN UPDATED PHOTO IN THE DARK tonight.  More to follow...but the cars were blocking a good shot today. Have a great night all!!!

As one who has spent hours  in the neighborhood  picking up trash, painting out graffitti and planting flowers at my own expense, I am sickened by the graffitti on Carlyle and Fulton.  

  This is a quality of life issue and I cannot fathom how anyone who cares about the community could actually paint this not to mention brag about so doing on a blog.  Graffitti is defacement and what was done sends a message beyond any political slogan.  For those who have condoned this  in other posts, I ask:  Why? 

Kate Dupuis

This sign is not graffiti, it is political speach.   As political speach (and if the property owner doesn't mind the sign) the sign does not require the usual permits which commercial signage requires.

Characterizing the message as graffiti may be detrimental to the sign's health.

  Angel found out today...she is okay posting as political speech and she has permission to use the building from the building owner.
 

With all due respect...yes, when this election's over...I'll paint the wall back to normal colors... and I will work to recover the building in general.

Kate, you raised enough cane today to get the only inspector for Ward 14 to rush out and take action...and he did, which I have no problem with. I actually appreciate that you are so inclined to protect and defend Santiago without thinking about how he has abused our residents over the last 4 years, disempowering them, and snidely acting as though he's so much better than everyone. Get real... this is not a battle you will win, sorry, that's life.... at least not in my arena...

I certainly wish you had spent that energy rallying the community to be truly represented over the last 4 years... maybe some good would have come out of your energies. I hear people daily talking about how they cannot get help, action, or information for that matter from our Councilman...mr. SANTIAGO! And, poof, you and him get the law department and the inspector all involved in less than 24 hours from the time that sign was posted! Action...my God...Where's this action been the last 4 years????? 

YOU ALL INSPIRED ME MORE THAN WORDS CAN SAY TODAY... YOU MAKE ME SO EXCITED AND ENERGETIC  TO SHARE THE REAL TRUTH WITH THE PUBLIC ABOUT YOU ALL AND YOUR NEGATIVE STUNTS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS... CINTRON HAS 8 YEARS OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND YOU ALL TRY TO LIE TO THE PUBLIC, UNDERMINE HIS ABILITIES, AND YOU CONTINUE TO LIE TO YOURSELVES ABOUT THE TRUTH. SHAME ON YOU ALL. SHAME, SHAME, SHAME ON SANTIAGO AND THE LIES HE PERPETUATES. HE KNOWS THAT HE CANNOT WIN THIS BATTLE, SO HE SENDS YOU AND HIS OTHER PAWNS TO DO HIS DIRTY WORK. OVER YEAR AGO, I ASKED HIM TO UNITE OUR COMMUNITY...THAT WAS ONE OF THE LAST FORUMS HE HAD...BECAUSE HE COULDN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH.... ANYONE WHO LIED TO THE US GOVT AS AN ENLISTED MILITARY PERSON FOR 8 YEARS IS NOTHING LESS THAN A PROFESSIONAL, LIFELONG LIAR. WHAT MORE SHOULD I HAVE TO SAY ON THAT SUBJECT MATTER???? HIS SKILLS REVOLVE AROUND BEING A LIAR... WHEN ASKED ABOUT FUNDING THE CDC IN THE SPRING-HE SAID THERE WAS NO FUNDING LEFT FOR THE YEAR...BUT WE SURE GOT FIREWORKS.... SHAME ON THIS ENTIRE ADMINISTRATION FOR SUPPORTING THAT DECISION. SHAME, SHAME, SHAME.

Could you all have found the inspiration to help families who are living on generators for electric?? Nope- BUT YOU FOUND ENERGY TO FILE COMPLAINTS AGAINST THE PEOPLE... You all are a bunch of fricken idiots down there... abuse the people who live here, don't help them to help themselves-that's not your job. You all have the worst attitude as city council leaders in all my life.  You all don't inspire crap except partying and bars..... I am taking a moment to calm down....

Kate, You are the same person who disavowed development in Ward 14 by advising Santiago not to support Community Development. You need to get your head checked. Why don't you move to the places where you advised Santiago to spend the money? You all are selfish and greedy.

Well, it's time for a wake up call to you and all of the folks who used abusive, negative campaigns to destroy Cintron. I am going to enjoy this battle with you and Santiago and the folks who are so happy about his polarizing agendas... you all should all relocate to snobville. You aren't civic minded, you aren't empowering, you are disgruntling and contemptive negative mongers. What you need is a good hug from the folks who are dying daily in our community of AIDS, living without proper nutrition because their rent is so high, hear the mentally ill ramble as they walk the streets,  and visit those living at homeless shelters with their kids because they've gotten themselves in trick bags of life. There are more folks in this community eating at the soup kitchen than you know and we're spending CDBG money on fireworks????? 

STOP THE MUSIC KATE!!!!

With all due respect... there were like 13 petitions pulled and 6 candidates filed in behind with candidacies to speak for the people....AGAINST JOE SANTIAGO!!!!! HELLO???? WHAT ARE YOU MISSING????? I applaud your loyalty...but it's absolutely unbelievable that you undermine my goal here...

That political statement on the wall speaks worlds about the folks you all don't represent!!!! 

The kids, the families, and the residents who do NOT agree with SANTIAGO'S WAYS.

So, take a moment to respect the people's voices who have been hushed for so long and quit trying to hide the 'less than desirable' truths of the world you're living in. This is reality here in Ward 14. Stop living in your cloud and trying to pretend that these issues are not continuing everyday. Take time to learn about the community that you supposedly live in. At least act like you have enough decency to appreciate that the demographics are allowed to choose whoever they want to be their future leader! 

But, prayerfully, this time around-the playing ground will be leveled by the TRUTH..... which is something your candidate evidently knows little about.... he's better at dog and pony sessions that hide the facts.  

MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALL!

I know I'm going out on a limb here, but beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and a lot of what I call graffiti some people call art -

I'm not talking about the everyday nasty dirty words that get painted all over everywhere.  But sometimes I'll be driving along and see drawings and writings that really have a lot of detail and took a lot of time to complete.  I often find myself wondering who did it.  This clearly takes talent because I can't draw a round circle.  I wonder what the individual who used his/her raw talent to {deface} property (under bridges, walls, etc.) in this manner,  could do if they had the opportunity to develope and refine those artistic gifts.

Train Avenue is one of the places I've seen some really far out pieces of work (some not so hot) but the railroad tracks go all the way up through there and the wall goes quite a ways up Train as well.  Anybody ever think about maybe dedicating or designating an area - sort of off the beaten path, for artist such as these to draw and express themselves.  If it was made as a place to exhibit the art, then maybe all the artists would make it a point to keep the area clean - and make it a prideful place to show off their work.

Just my thoughts.

Can you find any more ways to disempower our community at large? 

Parents/Families and School District Folks.... get involved in the process of life... Demand that they put Student Government back into schools so that our children can learn their political rights and so that they can have the choice of growing up to be proactive in this community.
 

This is yet another reflection of how our community in Ward 14 got so off track and disempowered... the removal of basic Student Government from our local schools.

Angel, I am not in the Santiago camp, not by a long stretch. I will defend his "lies" to the government though IF you are talking about the US government "don't ask, don't tell" policy. This policy was put into place so that gay and lesbian service people would not have to lie. The government doesn't ask, the service people don't lie. If they come out while in the service, they are court martialed and put out of the service.

So that we are all on the same page, is this the lie that you reference above?

Debbie

Councilman Joe Santiago has a philosophy born of his self-reliant background and experience of "getting the job done" in the Navy.  He feels that those who want to improve the community need to "step up to the plate instead of simply complaining." What he is modest about is his leadership ability to motivate people to do that, to organize and involve his constituents to work as a team on the streets to do an overwhelming job to improve their neighborhood.  His emphasis is on participation and moving forward, as opposed to allowing negativity to block progress.  When he first came home from the military, he said, he saw wonderful festivals but felt that something was missing in his community.  He wanted to be an aggressive advocate for betterment.  When I asked him exactly how that is done, he quipped, "serve lots of food."

"I need to run an effective, hard campaign, so I can have the opportunity to bring about a united ward," said Santiago.

1) He has not accomplished his goal of motivating his constituents to work as a tearm... His very own negativity blocked progress-particularly with shutting out local community development.

2) Oh my God...it's been controversial, polarized, and discouraging for 4 years...

3) He stopped forums when asked to be held accountable for quite a few poor choices. Did he change...yep...he made sure that before he left-he stripped Ward 14 of another 2 years worth of funding??? WOW! 

4) He told the CMDC in the Spring that there was no money (CDBG funds) left for the year.... then

A) Somehow he found $30k to give the Flats-Oxbow in June for fireworks??? Please tell me that's not a blatant lie... and if it wasn't a lie b/c he had previously agreed to fund them....then in actuality it was not a "SAVE THE DAY" issue-moreover a politically motivated issue that resulted in the world becoming aware of his abusive tactics to violate the needs of the residents in his ward.

B) Somehow he found like what $60-100k to give to Stockyard to "SAVE THEM"...

my, my...let's applaud Joe Santiago, the knight in shining armor who

    1) wouldn't fund his own CDC, but sent our monies to other CDC's to save them??? Hello...

     2) wouldn't help the desperate families in Ward 14 to get help either...

HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS OR THAT HOUSE THAT NEEDS ACTION BY THE INSPECTORS AND POLICE???? 

YOU ALL WOULD BE AMAZED BY THE ATTENTION THAT SIGN OF MINE GOT TODAY... FROM THOSE FOLKS TRYING TO PROTECT POOR JOEY... MAYBE YOU ALL SHOULD PAINT HIS NAME ON EVERY HOUSE THAT HE FAILED TO HELP WITH ALONG THE WAY.. THEN HE CAN REALLY GET SOME THINGS CLEANED UP NOW THAT HE'S LEARNED HOW TO CALL THE HOUSING INSPECTORS, TAKING PHOTOS TO THE CITY LAW DIRECTOR AND ALL.. GOD BLESS THE ACTIONS INCITED TODAY....WOW- ONLY TOOK ABOUT 4 YEARS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET HIM TO REACT IN A TIMELY MANNER! 

Angel, what is the lie that that Santiago gave to the US government for 8 years? You have posted that at least twice, and I really want to know.

The response you gave the first time that I asked does not address the lie to the government for 8 years.

Thanks,

Debbie

The DADT policy came into effect in 1993, he joined in 1987. That means he used fraudelent, deceitful, lies to get through his enlistment. HE was NOT protected by the DADT at his first enlistment..even if you don't agree with that idea because the laws were/are sucky for the gay professionals who are/have been great military people.

The lie was falsifying documents to get into the military and lying on applications and military entrance docs... I find that action as being FRAUDULENT, no matter the reasoning.

Despite my opinion about SANTIAGO's FRAUD, DECEIT, and LYING regarding this issue...which is a fact regardless of the defensive reasoning as to bad laws... I am going to agree with all those who wish to open the doors to gays in the military... even as lifelong military person... I recognize their professional abilities all the same. Maybe Santiago can move on to finish his goal of changing that law and fighting the federal government to amend/update it to achieve his highest goal in life...Maybe it'll give him something to do when we get rid of him from Ward 14!!!! 

 Your crediblity is slipping with me. You know for a fact that when Santiago went into the service in 1987 that he was gay at that time and you know for a fact that he lied about that?

You would also bash someone when the choice is bad government policy vs. being able to serve?

If you want to call Santiago a liar based on a direct interaction, that is fine. I would even support you. But the above is just not credible.

Also, given Nelson Cintron's past moral dilemma's, I would think that he would prefer not to mud sling in this manner.

Debbie Webb, also Ward 14

Thanks for the article; it gives me something to actually like about Santiago and I applaud his breaking barriers.

Stuck? You are the one that has repeated "lied to his government".  Sorry but again, not credible.

Debbie

AngelnWard14, you have my name. What is your name? I like to know the name of the person that I am talking with.

Debbie Webb 

Please, take your energies to your federal legislators on this issue, not me. I agreed to disagree and still respected your opinion & position on the matter of DADT.

CREDIBLE...A MATTER OF OPINION THAT WE'LL JUST HAVE TO AGREE TO DISAGREE ON! 

Some Veteran and member of the VFW that Santiago is.... he refused to help the one in your own back yard when they called him for help last year, before closing indefinitely.

Maybe you'd like to defend such dishonorable choices...but that's you...not me....

I will ask for your name, again.

Debbie Webb 

NOTHING!!!!! 

Since you won't be forthcoming with who you are, why continue? 

both can be handy, alias and real names. Have you had experiences where the real person won't come out when called? What is your take on that? Do you think that it is a right of privacy issue? If so, do you think that it applies in all scenarios or are there limits? 

Debbie

I think real names, real identity, lend towards more responsible posts.

Just my two cents. If you don't have the balls to say it with your name attached  - shut up. Again, just my two cents. i don't give much credibility to posters who don't use their real names. It is all too easy to create a fictional persona based on an idealized version of your self (or something else all together). just my two cents.

You and I may be related...we might know each other well...and we may have spent time talking and discussing matters of significance along the way about our community. We may bump into each other at the store, we may sit across from each other at meetings, and we may like the same places and people or not...

1) My position on this matter has absolutely NOTHING to do with who I support in this election campaign. But, since you want to go there...It'd be nice for you to know that because of Nelson Cintron's respect, consideration, and understanding of matters of this nature, I have been receptive to learning, overcoming my own ignorances, and accepting things I cannot change, respectfully. Moreover, Mr. Nelson Cintron Jr. supports our troops regardless of their sexual identity and he's not being a bigot in the least.

Debra...For someone who cares so passionately about this subject matter, you are only reducing the odds that I would want to try to respect your position another moment. I heard you the first time. You are inciting negative communication without consideration. I'd be the first to tell you that you are not promoting a healthy discussion in the least by being so contemptuous about certain things. I have gay friends all over this city...many of who have no problem communicating with me on matters we don't agree on. I have never been treated so erroneously by anyone who is gay, supports gay liberation, is a gay in the military,  or who is a bigot for that matter-as you have treated me today. Did it make you feel big to attempt to reduce me as a person by using your negative words? 

2) You're blatant contempt for my opinion on this subject matter, your desire to call me out, and your echoing chaos over this is frustrating b/c you obvously have no respect for other matters which you are unaware of in this community. Your impatient attitude, demanding insults, and forthright name calling are inconsiderate, selfish, and absolutely unnecessary. I gave you respect, while you attempted to annihilate me in your own little way. You expect folks to learn from that type of bashing? Come on now... You just shut down communication without teaching me anything... except that you cannot respect others the way you expect to be respected. That's LIFE 101. Your actions are abusive as far as I am concerned.

The entire REALNEO Community understands that we don't agree on this technical matter that you are too busy defending to appreciate. You're so quick to judge and so quick to berate someone who doesn't agree with your perceptions of things.

3) You need to stop trying to power shovel your position on matters down other people's throats. I gave you respect, repetitively...but you obviously cannot handle respecting my position-even when we are not going to agree...You screaming at me, ignoring the simplicity of agreeing to disagree, and your wrongful correlations to the election-are out of line.

4) As for being an idiot,  who is the one who's using the terms homophobic, gaydar, and bigot when they don't agree with someone else? Heck, I have never heard of 'gaydar' until I read that herein and had to google it!!!(Guess that makes me ignorant!)  I don't care if you are gay, straight, black or white...we are all human beings and we all bleed red blood...cry wet tears and live amongst each other. I came here to share positive, productive, and respectful issues...not be berated by someone who is clueless. My name is not important. I am no one special. I am just a normal human being. None of us are perfect....

5) Tonight, while you were so irate about my position- I was out in the community working with the people. I came across a single mother of 5 children who had her electric shut off yesterday. She's losing all of her groceries, 2 of her children have medical special needs, and to top it off, they had a fire from candles last night... As I came across this group of kids sitting inside a car with the doors open for light and the radio on outside of their home... the children were so nice, kind, polite, respectful, and well mannered with helpfulness when I asked where their mom was at? They immediately  ran to get her. When she came out of the house,  she was so exasperated, overwhelmed, and peeved about life...and she started screaming that "no one cared about anyone anymore, to leave her alone..." Boy did I know how she felt...

So, I turned around and asked her why she felt that way and she poured out the story about how her electric got shut off, the kids caught the house on fire, and so forth... by the time she had vented the list of items that had her ready to give up on things... we were both laughing (to hide the tears) about how our cars were both broke in the same way... And soon, I was working to let her know that someone cared about her and her children... that even if I couldn't do much, I could respect and understand her situation.

It was already dark... The onset of another night in the dark, the fact that she has to work or lose her job, and the many concerns she had came out on the table had her frazzled. As I worked to filter through what I COULD do vs what she had to do.... I watched the world come off her shoulders-if only for a moment in time...she found unbelievable respite to her world of worries for her children and for herself. Ultimately, after calling several places to get her help-unsuccesfully...I ended up offering to allow her and her children to come to stay at my home for the night...Complete strangers. Since they got here, the one teenager sat in a chair so quietly reading a book...the other children played the piano... and a couple more played in the bedroom with toys. Right now I have my child plus 5 other children sleeping in my house... they are safe and sleeping soundly after the exhaustion of events over the last day or so.

Maybe that's crazy to you...but you obviously have no clue about me. You are too busy trying to make me a bad guy. I don't need your respect/disrespect. I have my plate full giving a damn about the vulnerable people who need to get through the day...the people losing their homes, the people who really need my spirit in their worlds... I do what I do, without worrying about what you think of me. If tomorrow never comes, I won't have regrets that I could have done something along the way to help another person on this planet... That's just me. So, please take a step back from being so angry about anyone who doesn't have the exact same views as you. If you want them to appreciate your views, then appreciate theirs-even when you don't agree.

Respectfully Yours,

ANGELnWard14...

Debbie, what you're asking for is a political disclaimer regarding Angel's posts relating to upcoming elections.  Perfectly rational way to evaluate  credibitilty and that's why Ohio Campaign Law requires a disclaimer on all political information.  

For example, when I read Henry Senyak, I feel comfortable that his information is accurate and well-researched.  Digesting information from an unknown- to- me source requires some homework.

To prevent endless paragraphs of discourse from Angel, I am in no way implying her anti-Santiago/pro-Cintron posts are not credible.  We must all judge for ourselves.

Kate Dupuis - you may have noticed, I always identify myself when commenting for that very reason.  Also keeps me thoughtful, polite and honest. 

 your posts, Kate (and thanks for the schooling - i dO get testy....ask my husband).

If anyone cares, my name can be viewed by clicking my moniker.

Dbra, thanks.  I can be as stupid, idiotic, wrongheaded as anyone.  I learn more from the people that disagree with me than my like-minded cohorts.  Constructive criticism; i.e., enlightenment perhaps is always welcome.  We all care about our community.  We need to build bridges and work together.  For me to insinuate than Angel is not active in the neighborhood was disingeneous and for that, I apologize.  Kate Dupuis